Fountains of Wayne

Chris is releasing a solo album in july !

andy - 2016-4-19 at 08:40 AM

More on stereogum (with first single! )

http://www.stereogum.com/1871769/look-park-aeroplane-stereog...

miskw07 - 2016-4-19 at 12:06 PM

And the album cover and track list!


01. Shout, Pt. 1
02. Stars of New York
03. Breezy
04. Aeroplane
05. Minor Is the Lonely Key
06. You Can Come Round If You Want to
07. I'm Gonna Haunt This Place
08. Crash That Piano
09. Save Yourself
10. Get On Home

I saw him live last Friday in NYC. It was an event called "Wesley Stace's Cabinet of Wonder", and just before Chris's performance, Salman Rushdie read from his book. It was an amazing night.

LOOK PARK
Guitars, Vocals: Chris Collingwood
Keyboards: Mitchell Froom
Bass: Davey Faragher
Drums: Michael Urbano
Background Vocals: Mike Viola, Flora Reed & Philip Price (Winterpills)
Produced by Mitchell Froom
Engineered and mixed by David Boucher at Jack's, Los Angeles, CA

sherb - 2016-4-22 at 12:44 AM

Looking forward to it. :clap:

nhsgary - 2016-4-22 at 10:15 AM

Listening to the new song from Chris. Not bad. He said he threw out any songs that sounded like Fountains of Wayne. This still sounds pretty Fountains of Wayne-like. I think I like it....still listening.

sherb - 2016-4-23 at 11:39 PM

Quote: Originally posted by nhsgary  
Listening to the new song from Chris. Not bad. He said he threw out any songs that sounded like Fountains of Wayne. This still sounds pretty Fountains of Wayne-like. I think I like it....still listening.

Why would he do that?

andy - 2016-4-24 at 08:40 AM

Quote: Originally posted by sherb  
Quote: Originally posted by nhsgary  
Listening to the new song from Chris. Not bad. He said he threw out any songs that sounded like Fountains of Wayne. This still sounds pretty Fountains of Wayne-like. I think I like it....still listening.

Why would he do that?


Seems like he's getting a rash when people talk about Fountains of Wayne. Why ? that's a mystery.

Anyways, the song is good but definitely not up to Fountains of Wayne standards. It should a relaxing record, at least.

intown2007 - 2016-4-25 at 10:12 PM

Andy...thanks for the heads up! First off.....a songwriter coming up with quirky song titles instead of the usual generic's goes along way with me...and those are some very interesting song titles. because in my experience usually people who are thinking outside the box enough to come up with original sounding song titles usually have the chops to back it up.

the song itself...well I was impressed by how complex the arrangement was....its a weird track....very stop starty sounding with lots going on....love the warm string laden outro part that pops in for a bit every now and then..makes me want to be in my car and have that part cranked with the window rolled down..but theres not enough of that part...its very hooky but its like its a tiny after thought...

.not sure his vocal "sits" as well as it should in the mix...I wish he would double track more....his vocals as of late tend to take on a sort of whiney quality which usually double tracking offsets...but they are good enough. its a just ok track as far as the chorus. doesnt knock me out...but as a track that makes me think those other tracks might be inventive and interesting, it succeeds and makes me excited about getting the full album.

oh...btw...what the fuck is look park. come on man...it took freakin 30 years for him to put out a solo album....put your fucking name on it.

andy - 2016-4-26 at 02:52 AM

Yeah the song is weird, It's probably not the best song on the record as it's first tune we hear from it. Usually those are among the masses of the record.

Plus it sounds like a best of of all the Fountains of Wayne songs he's done. That's why i find it weird that he doesn't want to be in Fountains of Wayne anymore, it sounds very much like a leftover from Sky Full of Holes to me. Maybe Adam is a tyrant or something in the studio i dont know...

It bodes well overall i think, at least we're getting something new. And it looks like he's spent 10 years on it, so it HAS to be good right :P

intown2007 - 2016-4-26 at 09:49 PM

Just bought it on I-tunes, it def gets better with repeated listens. but I hate this trend where we get a heads up about an album release months out. it just leads to irritation. there are so many artists now who are doing this fairly new trend, surprise releases...they work on an album no press or anything...you log on the net one day...BOOM....done...its available to be bought. it heads off lots of fans scouring the net for leaks and illegal downloads(not that this is going to be a problem for chris no offense) but still. its just silly if an album is done and one just sits on it...they have the album picture and the tracklist on
I-tunes......I mean...just release it.

I cant imagine they will ever be done with fountains of wayne. they have big crowds when they play live...thats where the money is at. I cant imagine they will walk away from that.I would imagine its like their pension.

also...did you see some of the track lengths? cripes sake they make buddy holly songs seem like pink floyd epics. 30 years in the making and chris's album listen will last about the time it takes me to drive down the street to ARBYS drive thru, order a beef and cheddar and by the time I get back its over.


andy - 2016-4-28 at 06:30 AM

Quote: Originally posted by intown2007  

I cant imagine they will ever be done with fountains of wayne. they have big crowds when they play live...thats where the money is at. I cant imagine they will walk away from that.I would imagine its like their pension.



I guess you're right, at least for Chris it is, i imagine Adam is getting a lot of money from his production duties, and the other two are probably doing sessions musician job in LA.

I suppose the sale of the studio got them a lot of money as well, i mean, it was in the heart of NYC.

FOW is really a band that could have given us a great record every two or three years, if Chris wasn't so lazy. too bad...

intown2007 - 2016-4-28 at 10:43 AM

On another note....I guess the song is what's known as a grower....cause I love it now once I got my head wrapped around the structure.that part with the strings and that repeating riff...its quite the ear candy.

its all I'm listening to right now.I'm actually excited about what else is on that album...I am sure its going to be good. and no matter what he says...the song would have fit nicely on traffic or sky. still seems silly it isnt under his own name.

andy - 2016-4-29 at 12:00 AM

He probably wanted to get the name of that park out there

http://www.lookpark.org/

after a few more listens, i agree, it sounds very Fountains of Wayne later days. Silly indeed.

miskw07 - 2016-5-27 at 01:36 AM



Look Park to play at Fuji Rock Festival '15. The last time Fountains of Wayne played at Fuji Rock Festival, I saw so many fans from Australia. How about you, Sherb?
http://fujirock-eng.com/

andy - 2016-6-16 at 10:48 AM

second tune released, not Fountains of Wayne sounding at all


intown2007 - 2016-6-16 at 04:46 PM

hmmmmm this is shaping up to be quite an album. shout part 1 is so rousing and symphonic. I mean his voice gets totally overwhelmed near the end he needs to double track(i know I say that ad nausem but his voice always sounds a bit thin but still....both this song and aeroplane I have to say I love the totally inventive song structures...

its almost like he knows himself there is no expectation from him to put out anything good and the album will just get buried among a sea of other releases so he figures....
"ah fuck it"....and is able to just get weird and experiment. also, one of the pictures he has the chord sheet to haunt this place and my brother is a session guitarist in NYC and I asked him to play the sheet music and that one had some pretty beautiful minor key chord changes.

what he needs is to get one of his tunes into a key scene in some movie or something.thats probably his only hope of the album doing anything. and I dont buy the name thing. I suspect its difficult to put your name on something and essentially say..."this is on me" if one does it group style, you can just sort of be a face in the crowd and the band fails instead of chris. anyways I think this album is going to be really good. adam might be envious...without chris and Fountains of Wayne he's probably stuck writing jingles for Popeyes chicken

sherb - 2016-6-18 at 01:09 AM

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/16/fountains-wayne-frontma...

andy - 2016-6-21 at 02:01 AM

Don't really like the backing vocals, the yyeeaaheeyyoo to be honest. Sounds like jimmy clegg or something.

the rest of the tunes is quite good though

intown2007 - 2016-6-21 at 05:08 PM

it sounds to me like he was trying to sort of make his own "life in a northern town". it has that vibe with that kinda "sing chant".




I can't fuckin post!

nhsgary - 2016-7-9 at 05:43 PM

Did that fix it?

andy - 2016-7-11 at 05:02 AM

This record is released way too late. Mid july is a graveyard for record release.

It should have come out in late june.

Trouble. My "subject" appears as the message body and it ignores anything I type in the body.

nhsgary - 2016-7-11 at 06:01 AM

EDIT: Seems to be fixed now. Thanks!

andy - 2016-7-18 at 01:40 AM

"Breezy", another song from the LP, is available for listen on Spotify or here

http://www.clashmusic.com/news/premiere-look-park-breezy

Best tune so far, very summery.

sherb - 2016-7-18 at 05:16 PM

Reasonably detailed article.

http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/07/foun...

andy - 2016-7-19 at 06:28 AM

Thanx for that

The album should be up for preview now, as every other artist does, what's going on grrrrr

3 days away...

andy - 2016-7-21 at 12:27 AM

There it is !

http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/07/stream-fountain-of-way...

Couple of listens already, the first half definitely seems to be the strongest.

A record to chill out to, like the softest Fountains of Wayne songs he's written, stuff like Fire in the Canyon or Cemetery Guns.

intown2007 - 2016-7-21 at 08:59 PM

oh its really really good. I agree about the first half being stronger...

"Stars of New York" "I'm gonna haunt this place" Minor is the lonely key""save yourself".....wow I'm blowin out the replay on soundcloud. this is such a surprise seriously. I was expecting...a album with country tunes.....what we got was pretty much lush 70's folk pop album...layers of instruments...inventive arrangements...and intersting lyrics.

I went for a 2 hour walk on the erie canal and listened to it multiple times. this is a headphone album.
I also love that his lyrics are so all over the place and quirky. you dont hear the pop rock cliches in his songs. but the music is really deep...cripes sake I even think theres a touch of cha-cha music in "crash that piano...I mean...this is chris fucking collingwood of Fountains of Wayne of all people. cha-cha!

in some places I'm almost thinking he sounds like 70's glen campbell or as the reviewer said neil diamond.

I do have problems with the album....one of my favorite songs is "I'm gonna haunt this place"....it has an amazing yet mournful chorus with some reverbed out lulluby-ish vibey stuff in the background.....yet...the first and second time the chorus comes around...he only sings the chorus once....which sucks...repeat it sing it a bunch of times and let it breathe man....and then inexplicably after that beautiful beach boy ba ba ba part comes in the song peters out musically..and..vocally and just totally deflates...his voice drowned out by the drums an utterly cluttered shuffling mess,so strange! but I do like that part right at the end where the drums drop out. its atmospheric.

thankfully I didnt hear "breezy" first...I have to admit...oddly... I wasnt much interested in his solo album to begin with...if I heard the neutered james taylor style of "breezy" possibly I would have just thought..."ah so...thats his new style" and not even given the rest of the album a listen. also as I suspected chris seems like a very very minimal vocal production guy. as a result....every vocal sounds the same on every single song. dry...too in your face and plain. but...in the end, this is a surprisingly excellent CD full of surprisingly atmospheric music.

now if he would just change that promotional yellowish photo of himself that makes him look like some kind of creepy alien/human hybrid.seriously...that photo is fucking disturbing.

andy - 2016-7-25 at 10:28 AM

I'm glad he went the 70s route. an album full of country songs would have been to much to me.

After a few days, it's a really an overall good record, i agree it's one made for headphones.

but given the reaction here (almost... none), it wont sell like crazy.

So when he runs out of money they'll reform Fountains of Wayne :P

intown2007 - 2016-7-25 at 03:11 PM

Oh he's fucked to be sure.I mean its a solid album but I give him 5 months tops and he will be working at Olive garden.

andy - 2016-7-26 at 12:31 AM

Hehe, do you think he takes "regular" side job inbetween Fountains of Wayne ? the other seem to be doing side projects in music only.

I suppose he had to get this record out of his system, it was rumored for like 10 years.

But i'm confident we'll see new Fountains of Wayne in the next few years.

intown2007 - 2016-7-26 at 05:02 PM

Nah...I suspect what they make each tour is enough to float them for awhile. they probably augment it with gigging. but as far as more Fountains of Wayne you never know...if there is... cough cough...a certain member that doesnt like the work environment so much so to cut off his own nose to spite his face...rock and roll is full of people who fucked up dream jobs and walked away defiantly despite taking a hit financially. the Ace Frehley's and Axe roses etc etc.

if you listened to the language that was used in the interview chris has on his news page...the language is of a band that is broken up...not on hiatus. but who really knows...who really cares...I found another band I am totally geeking on now called the "the divine comedy". intelligent and brilliant fuck man I forgot about Fountains of Wayne already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB--qzE4JhE

andy - 2016-7-27 at 12:44 AM

haha funny, i'm massive Divine Comedy since 1997, even before Fountains of Wayne ! Great band that, seen Neil Hannon alone and with the band many many times and will see them 3 times this fall / winter, it's always a great gig.

It's weird that you think they are broken up coz Jody posts Fountains of Wayne related stuff on Facebook very often, maybe it's a message to Chris... I bet all but him would be willing to do it again then. Sad coz they have some great music in them.

But listening to that interview you mentionned, now i understand, he just wanted to be the man in control again.

I have faith, in music, things come and go, and the truth now is not necesserily the truth in 2 or even 5 years.

That Look Park record grows a lot on me.

sherb - 2016-7-27 at 02:28 PM

I want to thank everyone who is still posting here for keeping the site active. It isn't my site - it was started in 2003 by Eric. I have limited moderating access, so I have done my best to keep the messageboard tidy (mainly by continually having to delete spam posts!).

I do hope to eventually see if I can at least get the discography up to date, but I will need greater access to do that. In the meantime, keep posting away!!!

sherb - 2016-7-27 at 02:35 PM

As for the subject being discussed, I guess I am just disappointed that the fans apparently don't deserve to be told what is happening. I would have thought that we should be treated with a bit more respect. Oh well.......

I'm not particularly interested in Chris's album at this stage. Don't know why, I guess because it has taken Fountains of Wayne away from me. I will get it in time, and undoubtedly will get enthusiastic about it too!

I might check out Divine Comedy too, I think I need a new favourite band. :thumbs:

andy - 2016-7-28 at 12:20 AM

You should check it out, it's like a more laid back Fountains of Wayne record. It's really good after a week or so.

He's trying to distance himself from the band, but honestly, it's a like a Fountains of Wayne record made up of only Chris songs. He cant escape it, he's the voice.

sherb - 2016-7-28 at 02:48 AM

Quote: Originally posted by andy  
You should check it out, it's like a more laid back Fountains of Wayne record. It's really good after a week or so.

He's trying to distance himself from the band, but honestly, it's a like a Fountains of Wayne record made up of only Chris songs. He cant escape it, he's the voice.

I will get it in time, probably the next month or so.

To quote Please Don't Rock Me Tonight - at the moment "I'm not in the mood". :lol:


sherb - 2016-7-28 at 03:50 AM

A few reviews/interview pieces about Chris's new album.

http://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/200296/9

http://www.npr.org/2016/07/24/487237229/fountains-of-wayne-s...

http://americansongwriter.com/2016/07/album-review-look-park...

http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/07/foun...


andy - 2016-7-28 at 06:32 AM

"Parted ways" between Chris and Adam, as said in one those interviews.... that's scary.

sherb - 2016-7-28 at 01:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by andy  
I'm glad he went the 70s route. an album full of country songs would have been to much to me.

It would have been too much for me too. :lol:

sherb - 2016-7-28 at 02:32 PM

So just as an aside, which Divine Comedy album would you recommend as a starter for a newbie like moi?

intown2007 - 2016-7-28 at 08:47 PM

in his new interview he posted with extremely demented and epically shitty leftwing online magazine salon http://www.salon.com/2016/07/28/life_after_fountains_of_wayn... I know you re glad to be on your own now, but could you see touring or recording new music with Fountains of Wayne someday? Chris. I don t see it happening. I hate to be one of those guys who deal in absolutes, but the way things stand, I don t see it happening.
Soooo if you put all his comments together I suspect even if he changes his mind we wont see a Fountains of Wayne cd within 5 years. I'm glad he is doing his own thing but when you are a beloved band like THE CARS.....absence does makes the heart grow fonder...and all those hit songs are enough to make people want to see a CARS tour after years and years...........but the danger is when you are a middling band like Fountains of Wayne...essentially as it is hanging off a cliff by a finger.....a long absence could be devastating.

You need to have an eclectic taste to enjoy a divine comedy album. It's going to be to Jarring if you don't. with a band like Fountains of Wayne the album is generally going to be.... all the same... genre. with a divine comedy album you will get music that spans like 5 different genres...you will get orchestral/folk/rock/chamber/bluegrass/dance alot of times with a full orchestra. and the lyrics are as genius if not more so then Fountains of Wayne. they jump out at you unexpectedly.sometimes brilliantly tongue in cheek and funny delivered so slyly you didnt see them coming such as a couple lines in freedom road . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2_qshG7evg



andy - 2016-7-28 at 11:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by sherb  
So just as an aside, which Divine Comedy album would you recommend as a starter for a newbie like moi?


Promenade if you like strings

Casanova if a bit like the power pop album of Divine Comedy

Regeneration is a bit more pop rock, but not my favorite

I'd say Casanova for a starter. I agree with IntoTown, that band is kinda weird, so we would understand if you dont like them :)

andy - 2016-7-28 at 11:31 PM

Quote: Originally posted by intown2007  

Soooo if you put all his comments together I suspect even if he changes his mind we wont see a Fountains of Wayne cd within 5 years. I'm glad he is doing his own thing but when you are a beloved band like THE CARS.....absence does makes the heart grow fonder...and all those hit songs are enough to make people want to see a CARS tour after years and years...........but the danger is when you are a middling band like Fountains of Wayne...essentially as it is hanging off a cliff by a finger.....a long absence could be devastating.


The fact that he still wants to make music is good though. Before Traffic and Weather, it seemed like he didn't want to bother with that ever again.

Now he's touring on his own, with a new band and all. If Look Park works, there will be more Look Park, and i'm happy with that coz the record is good.

If Look Park fails, he will get back to Fountains of Wayne. And i will be happy too. So either way, it's a win :)

I think the fact that Adam sold their home base (the new york studio) probably didn't help them either to be close to one another.

the only sad part is that i only got to see them once live.

As for Fountains of Wayne's career, to me, the potential was there, it's just that the management never pushed them to the spotlight, especially after Stacy's Mom, they could have been huge. Or they didn't want to be huge.

intown2007 - 2016-7-29 at 04:09 PM

can someone explain to me what is going on with chris's enunciation with the opening lines of "stars of new york"?

it literally...and I mean literally sounds like he is laying back in a dentist chair numbed up with novocaine with that little air hose in his mouth and the microphone is above him and thats how he sang it.

that is not how you sing the opening lines to a song..at al.


"you can come round if you want to" is a nice little ditty. been likin that one quite a bit.

sherb - 2016-7-31 at 05:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by andy  
Quote: Originally posted by sherb  
So just as an aside, which Divine Comedy album would you recommend as a starter for a newbie like moi?


Promenade if you like strings

Casanova if a bit like the power pop album of Divine Comedy

Regeneration is a bit more pop rock, but not my favorite

I'd say Casanova for a starter. I agree with IntoTown, that band is kinda weird, so we would understand if you dont like them :)

Thanks for that, I will give one of the albums a try and see how I go!!

Here's another Look Park review:
http://thecelebritycafe.com/2016/07/look-park-self-titled-al...

intown2007 - 2016-7-31 at 06:30 PM

I have some notion that "you can come round if you want to" is chris writing a song subconsciously to himself about the Fountains of Wayne situation.

he's complaining about his bills like he's being realistic about the situation of he does need money....yet he says if your not content with the passible life ie, just getting by with his side band lookpark.. you can come round if you want to, ie go back to Fountains of Wayne ...and obviously the bird on the wire chris is telling to shut the hell up is Adam always asking chris if he wants to do a new Fountains of Wayne album or tour. at least thats my little take.

also I take note in some interviews he's proud of the fact there is a mellotron on the album...you know..that thing that costs 5 times a regular synth but sounds exactly the same when mixed in a song lol.

something working against him...I think he's going to need a hit or some big recognition for this album if he's going to shake off Fountains of Wayne.

andy - 2016-8-1 at 12:41 AM

The whole record seems like a psychoanalysis of his life, so i wouldnt be surprised if the last one is about Fountains of Wayne

It seemed like a slow Fountains of Wayne song to me, one that could fit on Traffic and Weather, where he was also questioning modern life.

sherb - 2016-8-2 at 06:10 PM

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/08/chris-colling...

andy - 2016-8-4 at 12:38 AM

It's really a great record. :cheers:

intown2007 - 2016-8-6 at 08:10 AM

well shit...it was only 20 years in the making. its a great rainy day album. I was sitting in the car eating lunch,it was grey and raining,rain tapping on the car and I was listening to "minor is the lonely key", it was a nice experience how it seemed to match the weather sonically.
I'm going to see him at Amourasaurus in northampton. I really hope he plays "I'm gonna haunt this place'...

I suspect he will, I mean I suspect they will play pretty much everything off the album and fill out the rest with Fountains of Wayne or covers. I will be very interested if he suckles up to the tit and plays "stacys mom". I think that would be a betrayal of the highest order... like cheating on and divorcing a loving wife and then telling her "and I'm keeping the fucking house and dog".

if anyone is on I-tunes or amazon or wherever you bought it it would be nice to say a couple nice words about look parks album.I'm going to do so on I-tunes

andy - 2016-8-8 at 08:53 AM

Interesting, as here it's been sunny and very warm most of the time, and believe me, it's also a summer record.

When a record fits many moods, you can be sure it's a great one

Well done chris, i didnt think he could pull it off.

andy - 2016-8-11 at 12:28 AM

I love How he keeps saying in interview he doesnt want to hear about Fountains of Wayne anymore

Yet, his show are advertised on Facebook as "Look Park : Chris Collingwood (from Fountains of Wayne)"...

haha i bet his manager disagrees.

intown2007 - 2016-8-11 at 01:17 PM

I also take note he's insistent it's a band ...yet any interviews only feature him.

he was interviewed on some show called juggernaut
http://www.juggernautpod.com/ its a long interview that managed to go over alot of territory...unfortunately said territory appeared to be the equivelent of canada....dull and uninteresting...for fuck sake if I hear the tired story of how adam and chris met one more fucking time.








sherb - 2016-8-12 at 02:09 PM

Quote: Originally posted by andy  
I love How he keeps saying in interview he doesnt want to hear about Fountains of Wayne anymore

Yet, his show are advertised on Facebook as "Look Park : Chris Collingwood (from Fountains of Wayne)"...

haha i bet his manager disagrees.

Yes, it sounds like Mr Collingwood in only principled so much.

The Fountains of Wayne reference certainly seems to suit him when it comes to his wallet.

intown2007 - 2016-8-12 at 09:22 PM

as unhappy and I am about Fountains of Wayne possibly being over, having to be fair, I think his first album is simply amazing. he deserves alot of praise for finally putting out an album of his stuff and it actually being top rate stuff. DEF top rate. its that good. its lush yet avoids being saccharine, it rocks,it makes you think and has some lyrics that are the farthest thing from fluff. I mean "crash that piano"... ........... he could have taken that song anywhere lyrically.....a lesser artist would have, instead he actually wrote a song about how some artists ruin their hit songs by playing them in an odd fashion. a quirky concept to write about yet he pulled it off perfectly.

you want to hate the guy because when you are the singer for a band...you essentially ARE the band. the lead singers voice is the avatar...and as sad as it may be, even though he didnt write "stacys mom" and even if he was never as successful as adam, the singer holds all the cards in determining the future of the group being the singer.and it pisses people off that essencially adam/jody/brian have no say in the future of Fountains of Wayne...it comes down to one guy and his particular whims.

I'm not sure Fountains of Wayne could pull it off having another singer which is done nowadays. on the one hand given their fairly low profile succes wise I'm not even sure half of the regular people who go to a Fountains of Wayne show would even take notice if instead of chris collingwood on stage there was chris cuomo from weezer. but to us diehards we would probably be really irritated to see someone else sing those tunes.

for jody and brian,think about it....yes, they are awesome and will keep gigging...adam will still be having lots of success, but what you dream of when you are young, to be a rock star with a fan base...they achieved it...its a steady flow of reasonable fame..and good money, and now essentially they've been laid off from that level and realistically will never again get to the level Fountains of Wayne was at.

I seriously doubt chris will escape this end result also. he's not always going to have a name tour partner like squeeze, and lacking any actual tangible chart success, in the end he's back to being a guy pushing 50 who for all intent and purpose is in an extremely talented no name garage band that got a lucky tour with squeeze who themselves arent exactly riding the wave.

but in anycase I REALLY am looking forward to seeing chris live at amourosaurus. his first release out of the starting gate IMO is something of a classic album that possibly nobody will ever realize. but just the same, chris hit it out of the park with his first try.

sherb - 2016-8-13 at 03:33 AM

"Hate" is a very unfair word to use in relation to how I view him.

When I get the chance, I will explain my feelings.

andy - 2016-8-16 at 01:04 AM

intown2007, i kinda agree, Chris has a lot more responsabilities towards the band than any other member.

He's basically Fountains of Wayne, his voice is unique. I hate when bands change singers, usually it doesn't work.

Maybe that's why Jody moved to LA few years ago, to find session musician jobs, because Chris told them he didn't want to do that anymore.

Maybe Fountains of Wayne could try with Adam or Jody on vocals, although that would be kinda weird. Can Adam even sing ? He does on Hannukah... and it's not bad.


intown2007 - 2016-8-16 at 08:02 PM

if we are talking background vocals...adams your guy. he has that high voice thats perfect for doing harmonies...Jody has a good rock voice(listen to his tune "sweeping exit' but his timbre is too whiskey soaked,messy and too different than chris's...it would be jarring to hear him sing the Fountains of Wayne catalog.

actually speaking of Jody, there is a guy he plays live shows as a duo named Cobb Ervin that I think would make a definite passable and acceptable replacement for chris if they were of the mind to carry on without...dont know who he is but heres them playing "valley winter song"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtG5QT1OeAQ I know.... sacrilege , but life goes on and he has a clean nice tenor like chris. and people were singing along with him...thats a good sign


andy - 2016-8-17 at 01:00 AM

ah ! well that wasnt a bad take, but Fountains of Wayne should only be Chris on vocals, or the other three guys.

Or just Chris. It would be a travesty to hire another singer.

What i like abut Chris is that he sings like an american but with a Beatlesy/Oasis vibe, but not like any other american.

This guy sounds like a generic american singer.

PS: why people dont shut up when people play ? I never understood that...

sherb - 2016-8-17 at 03:25 AM

I certainly don't hate CC, but I am really pissed off with him.

He seems so determined to distance himself from Fountains of Wayne that he has basically taken a dump on the band - said dump, unavoidably, including the fans.

It wouldn't have been that hard for him to behave with a bit of class and respect. He could have easily said in his public statements how grateful he was for the opportunities the band presented him and how thankful he was for the support of the fans over the past 20 years - but now that he felt it was time to move on.

He could have also made it clear he didn't intend to return to Fountains of Wayne well before this - instead, he has been happy to leave fans hanging on in false hope. (Mind you, I suspect the other band members would have known too, and they also stayed quiet).

If it weren't for Fountains of Wayne it is possible he wouldn't been in the position he is currently in - ie able to branch out and do this album with a fair bit of promotion. Plenty of musos as talented as he is have fallen by the wayside over the years.

I see a bloke too busy being cranky (at whatever or whoever, who knows?) to be thankful for where he is and to those who helped him get there to be honest.

Singers are the hardest to replace, I agree, but it is not impossible. And his songwriting input over the last couple of albums has been negligible, so that aspect won't be too hard to cover. Might be time for Jody to step up.

So I certainly would continue to follow a Fountains of Wayne with a new singer.

Having said all that, one day I will come to terms with all this and buy the Look Park album and do my best to like it. Just not now.



intown2007 - 2016-8-17 at 02:43 PM

one wonders what went on inside the band. I am assuming adam and chris butt heads...but over what one wonders? I cant imagine it was touring woe's, after all if that was the issue why chris left...what does he do first thing? go on tour with look park from japan to everywhere in the US. so I cant imagine it was that.

thats the only way aging musicians can make money realistically nowadays so touring is going to be a part of chris's life if he wants to keep his house stocked with seasonal effective disorder bulbs. well unless your adam, I suspect adams juiced into the big leagues and does alot of stuff we dont know about and reaps the rewards for being a go getter.

maybe its the classic tale of someone feeling in the shadow of the other guy and showing displeasure via being irritating and uncooperative . I notice in an interview adam made a strange admission.....something to the effect if chris doesnt like something about a song he submits such as the singing melody...he will refuse to sing it. I mean chris can sing anything and sound good. its not like adams pumping out Fountains of Wayne songs with melodies along the lines of "these are a few of my favorite things" so if thats true,thats pretty shitty of chris to deny adams wants for whatever Fountains of Wayne album.

also, this thing chris is saying in interviews about him not using songs that sound too Fountains of Wayne...I'm not sure I buy that...looking at how few songs he had on traffic and weather...I suspect he just doesnt write hardly any songs at all.I doubt he was weeding thru lots of songs to find those not like Fountains of Wayne. I bet there's no hard drive stocked with lots and lots of unheard chris songs.fragments maybe, of disjointed
ramblings of a guy at 4 in the morning in his studio who cant sleep maybe, but I bet he has tons of misfires and X amount of good tunes.

I suspect had they done a Fountains of Wayne album, alot of the songs on the new Fountains of Wayne album would have been the songs on look parks album just rocked up more is all.

or maybe chris is just a gentle soul and adam is pushy using his sucess. or something else...
I notice there is the first verse on "save yourself" where it seems like he is needling a bit who I think are the jodys and brians....

"all the air goes out of the room when the boys come...and soon its just a wall of smoke...they like to leave their mark,anywhere they are,like creatures of the savage wild.
there might as well be a line for all the friends they got,and you can tell em from the clothes they wear,leather boots and their ragged tee's,golden bangles,
he goes on to sing, "if getting by wasnt trouble enough, save yourself because you cant save the ones you love,"

so who knows....maybe the whole band thing was getting to chris....the hanging out with band mate rocker types and their excesses or maybe they just took a break and are being obtuse and dickheads about it.






andy - 2016-8-19 at 01:55 AM

Quote: Originally posted by intown2007  


I suspect had they done a Fountains of Wayne album, alot of the songs on the new Fountains of Wayne album would have been the songs on look parks album just rocked up more is all.



I totally agree. Most songs on Look Park are distant cousins of Chris's tunes on Sky Full of Holes to be honest.

He will always be Fountains of Wayne, whether he likes it or not.

As for friction in the band, well, having been in a band for a short time myself. It's really difficult, even if you are pals with the guys.

There is ego, direction you want the band to go to, sound you like the others don't.

And may i add, i was born on october 3, same as Chris, and we people from the early fall have a hard time being around people all the time, we need a lot of time alone. I guess being in Look Park will allow him to be more "alone" during tours.

It's really more simple to be a solo act, even though i always thought bands produces better music because of that ego race. But inside, it's hard to experience. Being 24/7 with people, even people you like a lot, is hard.

I guess they're all to blame. Chris has had harsh words about Fountains of Wayne, but he'll regret it someday. Look at the Pumpkins lately, all coming together even though they havent spoken in 16 years.

I'm all for the band trying with Jody or Adam on lead vocals, but another singer, not too sure about that...

intown2007 - 2016-8-19 at 03:58 PM

the way I look at it is, we might not be happy with the notion possibly chris caused the demise of Fountains of Wayne....but he's still Chris.
he wont be making music forever you know. its best to be supportive of what they do and leave any of the other stuff out of it. the charts are full of the most abhorrent nasty vile rap and hip hop now....and the concert venues packed.

and yet a real songwriter and singer like chris who just put out a deep and intelligent and eclectic CD is playing festivals and clubs with probably hardly any radio play for shit money.
enjoy it while we still can.



Alex H - 2016-8-20 at 02:20 PM

Quote: Originally posted by sherb  
As for the subject being discussed, I guess I am just disappointed that the fans apparently don't deserve to be told what is happening. I would have thought that we should be treated with a bit more respect. Oh well.......

I remember not knowing if Fountains of Wayne had split or would release another album before some 30-second Welcome Interstate Managers previews appeared online at some point. Why should we know? We wouldn't hear anything of bands for ages before the Internet and particularly social media took off. All bands are different and only the band members themselves know what goes on in the band itself, so I wouldn't criticise any for not telling fans what is and isn't happening.

Sometimes it's more annoying being told an album is in the works for years, so you keep expecting it, but nothing appears. This has been the case with Teenage Fanclub (the band that led me to Fountains of Wayne, or vice-versa) who have finally got around to releasing their first album in 6 years. But again, they had their reasons.

As for Look Park, I probably prefer the album to Sky Full of Holes - Aeroplane is up there with some of my favourite Fountains of Wayne songs. There are some songs I'm hoping are growers - but most of my favourite albums have songs I liked instantly, plus a few that took longer to sink in.

Edit - Teenage Fanclub are a good model for Fountains of Wayne actually - they have 3 songwriters, and for the last 3 or 4 albums, each of them has written 4 songs each. I wouldn't be surprised if another Fountains of Wayne album came along in a few years. I don't see them doing anything without Chris.

sherb - 2016-8-22 at 02:20 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Alex H  

I remember not knowing if Fountains of Wayne had split or would release another album before some 30-second Welcome Interstate Managers previews appeared online at some point. Why should we know? We wouldn't hear anything of bands for ages before the Internet and particularly social media took off. All bands are different and only the band members themselves know what goes on in the band itself, so I wouldn't criticise any for not telling fans what is and isn't happening.

My view and feeling is that if these guys are happy to accept the support of people such as us, a bit of common courtesy in return is the least we can expect.

If it was known, say, 12 months ago that Fountains of Wayne wasn't going to record again, why not just tell the fans rather than keeping them hanging on in false hope?

I reckon Collingwood isn't the only one who knew well before this that Fountains of Wayne wasn't happening any more. Yet apparently the fans are just mugs who don't deserve to be told this.


Alex H - 2016-8-22 at 08:07 AM

I see your point-of-view - but they still haven't even said Fountains of Wayne definitely won't record again, just that it's unlikely. What if there's been big fall outs in the past, and they've decided to call it a day, but then made-up enough again to record something? It'd be like a soap opera if they told us they'd split, but then 2 years later made another album. I don't see the big deal really. Things change, people change.

andy - 2016-8-24 at 02:07 AM

FOW probably split up a lot in the past, we just didnt know it. There was a failed experiment at recording somewhere remote before Welcome... if i remember correctly.

I get Sherb's point of view, for a band like Fountains of Wayne, which is relatively "small", its common to communicate more with the fans via facebook...etc It's like a community more than a band followed by random people. Plus that's how you maintain a fanbase.

As people age, it's harder to make compromises though. I guess it's all down to Look Park success. If it fails, Chris will come back. As you said, people change, things change, and Chris state of mind in 2016 wont be the same in 2018 or 2019. But maybe, by then, no one will care about Fountains of Wayne...

sherb - 2016-8-24 at 04:27 PM

Everyone has a different perspective on this. And a different emotional attachment to the music. And a different set of principles they apply from their own life experience.

In my case for instance I have never met the band, or know them, or have seen them perform. And I had hoped to finally get to the US when the new (now non-existent) album was recorded and they toured in support of it.

So I am a mixture of angry, pissed off, extremely upset and so on. I make no apologies for that.

Collingwood in particular, and the rest of the band members to varying extents, would have known that the band is likely done well before this. And this news has to come out in dribs and drabs/bits and pieces in a series of (varying degrees of) cryptic references in media regarding Collingwood's new project?

Is that seriously how much they respect the Fountains of Wayne fans?

Having said that, in hindsight I guess I am not that surprised, given the band's history (as Andy alluded to). They seem to just "get around to" recording albums and touring, and don't seem to rate an extremely loyal fanbase as particularly important.

I'm done with Fountains of Wayne and their music for the foreseeable future, I just need time to come to terms with this. I'll get Collingwood's CD one day, but I am not in any particular hurry at the moment.

As I said, we are all coming from different perspectives. That is mine. There is no right or wrong.

I'll still keep this site running as best I can though.

Thankfully Nik Kershaw is working on a new album. He is as good a songwriter, if not better, than C or S. And the beauty of solo artists is that they can't split up and break your heart.......

Here's a 2014 demo of a NK song I found. Hopefully this is included on the new album. It's gorgeous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQXFFtJ3RzI

andy - 2016-8-26 at 01:01 AM

Chris posted a demo he did for a fan on facebook

https://soundcloud.com/campworkaround/happy-birthday-erin

He's got the potential to become a great folk singer. He's got the songs, the melancholia and the lo-fi sound.

Could be something like Eels, Richard Swift and acts like that

sherb - 2016-8-26 at 05:06 AM

By the way, I will eventually get over all this.

I just need to vent........:)

andy - 2016-8-26 at 06:13 AM

And when you do, you'll love this record, believe me

It's that good (and it wont go that unnoticed)

intown2007 - 2016-8-28 at 02:13 PM

so I drove like 300 miles to see look park at look park.

the good news is, the crowd just adores chris like he is the town treasure. they showed him alot of love during his brief set. so I'm sure it was all pats on the back and "hey chris great set!" for him after his show.

but I'm not from northampton, so I'm going Roger Ebert all over him.

his set was amazingly sloppy and messy. and I'm not talking about in the good "hey man thats rock and roll" kind of messy....I'm talking as in the band didnt appear to totally know the songs.
to be fair...he said that this was only their third time playing a show together. but just what the fuck are they doing band practice nights?

I almost thought watching the show that his band was some sort of diabolical deep espionage plot orchestrated by Adam to make Chris look bad via getting chris to "pick" his band by getting these musicians to be in his field of view at a particular junction and chris just thinking that he actually picked the band members and all along they were double agents who were executing "operation fuck chris" because brother...they were working against him.

the beginning of "stars of new york"...someone ...I believe the keyboard player was totally playing in the wrong key for a whole bunch of bars...the dude was playing the notes with such zeal and conviction though as if he was saying...yeah its the wrong key...but I'm not fuckin movin. you assholes can change key to meet me.

also the band suffered from the usual thing so many bands suffer from live....the bass player is too fucking loud. there was such low end rumbling whenever he hit notes...alot of which seemed like he wasnt tuned that well...and it just added so much low end. theres no reason why the bass has to be loud. a loud bass has the ability to derail a song because if the bass player holds a note it sounds like a foghorn sustaining under the song. 2 guitars have enough bass notes to not need to have a loud bass.

I don't know any of the band members names I just know who they look like. you had anthony weiner the politician on piano.....malcolm young from AC/DC on bass...philip seymour hoffman on guitar and the drummer....well the drummer looked like every movie stereotype of a british rodie you've ever seen. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out his name is something like Nigel.

in any case it was definitely what would call an "off night". the only one not off was the bodacious woman in black jeans who came up to sing with them on fire in the canyon shout part 1 and got me excited for once during the set. here's the set list as I can remember it not necessarily in this order

save yourself
stars of new york
breezy
barbara H
aeroplane
you can come round if you want to
get on home
radiation vibe
shout part 1
fire in the canyon
red dragon tattoo
some tune I didnt know about putting something in a box. a cover possibly

almost.... every song from the new album except the one song I actually drove 300 miles hoping to hear "im gonna haunt this place".the only thing haunting at this show was the mosquitos.

also he said they just got done making a video for aeroplane. hope we see it soon.

but honestly....the performance was so messy and so underpowered....I have to tell you, I will not be making anymore 300 mile drives to see them.
some things worked out...shout part 1 they pulled off pretty well as I was certain that AAAEEEEAAAAOOOO part was going to totally go wrong and implode and send everyone in the audience into fits of the giggles, but luckily
"hot body" was on the case and joined them for that one again and nailed the high parts.

there were some bright spots.....save yourself was nice..get on home and breezy sounded nice..the bass player must have broke a string during breezy cause the sound was awesome on that one..also the band does have really onpoint harmonies. but I remember feeling bad for chris. maybe I am making too much of this. but I dont know...I want him to do well and I thought that that set...wasnt going to win over new people. its going to take new people...not northampton residents to make look park successful. also I should add...it wasnt just the band that was shakey this show....chris wavered on and off key quite a bit. in short..they all had a bad night. bad bad leroy brown style.

pic upload

andy - 2016-8-30 at 01:00 AM

Thanx for the detailed review :)

Sounds like it was really a bad show, and the pic make it seem like it some sort of local band making shitty covers to be honest... In Fountains of Wayne, it the three other guys that made the live band on top of Chris's songs to be honest. So if these guys are not good, it wont ever sound good.

We'll see.

sherb - 2016-8-31 at 03:19 AM

Sorry to hear you made such a long trip for a bit of a disappointing show.

I am sure things will improve with the liver performances over time.

andy - 2016-9-2 at 09:58 AM

Looks like Fountains of Wayne reunion wont be anytime soon

Jody announced a new band : Jody Porter and the Berlin Waltz

https://www.facebook.com/jody.porter/posts/10209737141332866...

I didnt really like his solo albums, let's hope this one if more in the vein of Fountains of Wayne.

sherb - 2016-9-3 at 12:28 AM

Quote: Originally posted by andy  
Looks like Fountains of Wayne reunion wont be anytime soon

Jody announced a new band : Jody Porter and the Berlin Waltz

https://www.facebook.com/jody.porter/posts/10209737141332866...

I didnt really like his solo albums, let's hope this one if more in the vein of Fountains of Wayne.

I've copied this post to a new thread.

Took me ages (due to my limited editing rights). :thumbs:

intown2007 - 2016-10-8 at 07:59 AM

not sure if anyone has seen or posted this yet...
Flight Commander Collingwood released his video for Aeroplane.
http://www.vevo.com/watch/look-park/Aeroplane/USY1R1690134

its kinda passable in a sort of "purposely bad so as to appear aloof and detached from that whole make a good music video" kind of way.

I also take note we are told this is a band yet as with the interviews and the video being a whole lotta chris and only weird obtuse angles of the rest of the guys its clear Chris is the Diana Ross of the group and the others are his backup band...as in..."back the fuck up, band!"
the song sounds so good though with a video